I certainly hope that their new coach succeeds. We had a similar HC hire 10 or so years ago and it did not go well for us at all. Hiring a HC with no prior HC experience is a bit of a crap shoot, but we have been OK with it in the past. In fact I believe that Hawk was the only hire we made that did have prior experience as a head coach. So good luck to sac. Hope he works out and sticks around.

No one insulted your child, so let’s not overreact. This is a sports message board, where friendly banter is a big part of the culture. It’s easy to focus on the negative, but perspective matters. Additionally, bringing up your income weakened your argument—it’s the conversational equivalent of “my dad can beat up your dad.”

Take a step back and relax. Life’s too short to let this bother you. We’d love for you to stick around and enjoy AST.

I believe it's the first time we elevated a career position coach. In RG defense, he likely inherited Biggs' minimal budget, and it sounds like Hawk helped increase that. Did we also increase scholarship dollars under Hawk?

I personally loved RG and maybe he was under funded I don’t know. But my point was to make him an example of how a positional coach sometimes falters as a HC in college coaching. I’d say he’s doing quite well at the Rams. So no criticism of him as a coach or as a person.

The CSU vs UC thing is overblown. We're rivals so deal with it. We laugh at Sac but we don't laugh at Portland State or Northern Colorado.

One of your top members refers to us as the "Dung pile".

Chill SSUCDalum...this is a great message board with hard core fans of a great program that reps the Sac area well.

And I love that you guys talk about other programs. The Sac-UCD rivalry is one of my favorites, The truth (so hard to admit) is you guys have been our daddy in football for over 70 years...but every year is another chance and we get you guys every once in awhile.

For all the trash talk, its not unusual to see a Sac undergrad go to Davis for Grad School or vice versa for a masters in education. Know a few people who did either.

My cousin was a Davis grad in 02 or 03 and did Sac for her special Ed program or whatever it was.

One if my dad's closest friends is a Sac grad but is a very proud alum of UC Davis' King Law school.
Another friend a few classes below mine graduated from Davis but works at Sac State for a community outreach program.

Dung pile: Walking around the East Concourse at the playoff game you instantly get the organic aroma of the UCD Livestock Yards. Where else can you get that? Unique. To me those comments are just statements of envy. Nothing more. So to those across the causeway, thanks! Happy Holidays!
We all have a lot to be thankful for.

Losing to you guys is the worst and I hate it. :D

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from your loving friends at Aggie Sports Talk! :heart:

Agreed, have at least five friends and family who did undergrad at UCD and grad school at Sac, almost all in Kinesiology.

The schools are a great package for this area.

Merry Christmas to all.

Hope everyone had a great break. Man, I'm tired of going to parties!

Sac adds a 6'2 205 QB who had offers from Cal, Florida A&M, Iowa State, Louisville, Miami, NAU, Oregon, SDSU, TCU, Tennessee, UNLV, Utah and Virginia Tech.

are these all 2025 commits? Seems like if you’re bringing in this many guys on top of their fall recruits, they must be releasing some existing players? Only a handful of guys put themselves in the portal.

I would love to see Davis get transfers from schools like Oregon state and the likes.

It didn't turn out so great for Hornet basketball. From 6 league wins under Coach Laird, increased to 7 with lots of transfers, but only 4 last year w DP.

Only one DI win this year w interim coach, then likely at least one rebuilding year. I'd say that hiring doesn't-commit Coach David Patrick was a poor choice by AD Mark Orr.

Coach Laird wasn't flashy but provided stability and had the team on an upswing. The high school gym and minimal support means only a local coach has a chance of staying for even 3-5 years. Orr likely felt jobbed by Coach Katz' late departure, and DP left in late May. He has a history of moving every two years or less.

This is a pile of malcontents and guys that were cut and have no options. You don’t want those.

He is cutting players.

I thought Katz retired due to health concerns ?

I'm going to play hornet's advocate here and say there is a kernel of truth to what SSUCDalum said. It is kind of weird to follow your rival to the point where you're listing and discussing their recruits.

It's even kind of weird to do that with UCD recruits, but I let that go in the name of school pride.. They're just names, people. The names are all but meaningless to outsiders anyhow. It's up to the recruits and coaches to make them mean something. Everybody looks good in their highlight videos. That is why they are called highlight videos. Wake me up when one of them does something truly unusual, like throw a 200 yd pass that winds up in a parking lot. If I go to a game I root for whoever shows up. Not my job to be any more invested than that.

I guess I just don't care that much about it, but the Causeway rivalry seems kind of stupid. Anyone with a brain knows both schools play an important role in supplying the country with essential workers and useless bureaucrats alike. It's just an excuse to be hateful for some.

He did, at a late date which essentially guaranteed Laird one year as HC.

Well said. As I've gotten older, I've stopped rooting against any young student athletes. I'll always root for my Aggies, but as an alumni, I no longer have any sort of rivalry. My cousin went to Sac State, coworkers, etc. I would never call them the names I used to yell from the student section at Toomey field. It makes no sense.

Interesting. I hadn't considered the timing of his resignation.

I live in SEC country and I can say that it is not uncommon at all for people to follow their rival's recruiting. That being said, football is a way of life down here. I also don't think there is a singular correct way in being a fan. If you don't want to be invested as much as others that's fine just as it's fine if there are folks who do want to be heavily invested.

I think going out hiking is kind of strange, but it's totally fine if people want to do that.

Rivalries are rivalries but should be kept in perspective. Harvard and Yale have a rivalry and both schools supply the nation with great workers and the occasional misfit. Same for Cal and Stanford, Ohio State and Michigan, Duke and North Carolina, etc.,... Where I take issue with SSUCDalum are comments like "we root for UCD outside of causeway. All the disrespect calling us janitors is just bs" and "I bet I make more money than most of you on here."

As noted there are people on the Sac site who refer to UCD as the Dung Pile and the Manure Pile...and not just referring to the Causeway game.

Moreover I don't give a damn how much SSUCDalum makes, or how fancy a car SSUCDalum drives, or just how great SSUCDalum is in intimate pursuits. Nice to know SSCUDAlum measures life by that standard.

Also well put. I think it's a useful thing to once in awhile take in a game at an opponent school (Aggies visiting or no) for fun when possible. It kind of humanizes "the enemy". You see how their fans positively support and value them in their own environment instead. They're not just invaders who must be destroyed. Puts it all into perspective.

In my experience opponents' fans are much more tolerable at home than when they come to Davis. I could say that of their players too-much more jackassery when in Davis. Maybe you don't notice it as much in football because so much is happening at once, but in baseball I promise you that you would hear them yell stupid, obnoxious crap all game long. Doesn't matter that their parents are often in the stands. The road must bring it out in them. I try to stay away from the gatekeeper mentality of "How dare they act this way in my house ?" as a reason to dislike the team and fans, something I surely would've done as a student. It's just not worth getting worked up about. Just a game.

I don't like hiking either. Too many insects and things on which to trip. So we at least have some common ground there.