Clee probably could have just run there... Or throw it away

Hey hey a defensive stop... In this economy?

Holy moly our defense just has nothing going

Why do a long developing run play for 1 yard. I know they are big on defense, but just try to push forward for 1

Cleeland has to hit that. It was on the run, but receiver was wide open for the 1st.

The answer is no... No we cannot

Can we please just get 1 defensive stop?

I can't get too upset given who we are playing, but our guys on defense don't even look like they're reading the plays. Blown coverage after blown coverage.

Let's get back to the short pass game on offense. 2 runs up the gut for 0 or negative last drive was killer.

Atrocious defense... Woof

I doubt SMU would leave their starters in the whole game at that rate. With the temps and short week for them, they don't want to risk starters to injury.

Facemask? On us? Uhhhh...

C'mon man... We just can't seem to figure out kicking

Must be nice to have a kicker who just boots it out the back of the end zone every kick

Not much you can do on that drive. Decent coverage on the receiver. Amazing catch.

Alright, let's do this! Go Ags! Remember guys, any given Saturday!

K State up 24-7 now. WSU's only score off a pick 6. WSU only 90 yards of offense in the 3rd quarter.

17-0 K State over WSU

Go Ags! Beat the Ponies!

I can't argue against your assessment as I didn't go to any practices myself, but as I mentioned previously I trust Plough when it comes to QBs. I don't think he gave Cleeland the job just because he's been around longer. He gave Pinnick the job over Harper last season and I think he made the right choice.

Again high school stats and ratings don't really matter to me that much. What matters to me is what they can produce now. Lan Larison only has 2 stars coming out of high school.

Anyway, I don't really want the thread about SMU to turn into just QB debate so let's try to refocus things to this weekend.

Go Ags! Beat the Ponies!

I would caution against using the star system as justification for someone starting. There are numerous cases of 4 and 5 star athletes who turn out to be busts in college while unranked players are big time players. I post star ratings of players in the recruiting thread, but I put little to no stock in that system. It is not deterministic by any means.