Should move up a couple spots in the polls. We're 13 in the STATS poll and No. 10 East Tennessee and No. 12 Rhode Island both lost. Could jump No.5 Montana since they lost at home to Sac. Their resume isn't all that great. Beat a bad Washington team, 1-6 Western Illinois, 1-5 Cal Poly and 0-5 Dixie St by 17 (we beat them by 33). Their losses are better than ours though. So who knows.

I bet we'll be ahead of them as a lot of voters will dock them for losing to an unranked team (though Sac might be ranked after this) and will give us the nod because we've got a better record.

I’m terrified of their game against us. Fewest points they’ve scored in a game is 34 against Montana. Also put up 35 against UNLV though that took 2 OTs. Only had 20 in regulation. Other 5 they’ve put up at least 50 including 60+ 4 times.

Why do you seem so hell bent on defending terrible people like Jon Gruden?

Like when you say the following...

I believe having an opinion on non-players as coaches / refs (women), and kneeling at games, falls more into strategy and political beliefs. — movielover

it's clear you just don't get it.

Did you even read the article I posted? I'd recommend you do. It will explain things much better than I can.

It depends on the extent of it. There have been NBA players (Kobe I remember specifically) who have been fined for using homophobic language. A white WR was fined years ago for using the n-word out of anger at a concert. A similar thing would probably happen today, though maybe they'd be suspended for a game, which seems fair.

The difference is twofold. One is the extent to how often Gruden used these types of language. I'm not naive enough to believe the incidents Kobe and the WR were fined for were the first time they used that language. But you can't punish someone for a hypothetical. But this wasn't one incident from Gruden. It was a series of emails showing that this wasn't a mistake out of anger. This is who he is. The other guys could theoretically argue it was a one time thing (though again, I wouldn't believe them). Gruden can't. Secondly, Gruden is in a position of power, which means you're held to a higher standard. And for a league that has issues with a lack of diversity among its coaching staffs, having a racist coach who only hires white OC's and DC's is a problem.

So to answer your first question, if it came out tomorrow that Tom Brady did the exact same thing as Jon Gruden did, I would hope the Bucs would cut him instantly and would be disappointed if they didn't.

As for your terminology of "being fired for life", I'm not sure exactly what that means. Should Gruden ever get a job in the NFL again? No, he shouldn't. There are plenty of coaches out there who could do just as good a job as Gruden without being a bigot. He's made millions of dollars in his life and won't suffer one bit for it. The league is better off without him.

College coaches and administrators should too. Hell, if it came out that one of my bosses at work did the same thing as Gruden, I'd expect him to get canned too. The obvious difference is it would be easier for my boss to move on and get a different job than Gruden, but my boss also isn't a multi millionaire.

Racism is bad. Homophobia is bad. Sexism is bad. These aren't mistakes you are. It's who you are as a person. And there are consequences for being a bad person.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/10/12/22722678/jon-gruden-emails-resignation-raiders-coach

Another good article about the Gruden situation and why it's a problem beyond just his words being incredibly offensive.

Yes, black guys are allowed to use the n word.

I don't listen to a ton of rap music but I wasn't aware white dudes are dropping n bombs all over the place.

On a lighter note, I'm still waiting for one of my favorite sites to update.

http://isgrudengoneyet.com/

Well this is quite wrong on a number of counts.

Dropping the n-word 11 times, whether directed at someone or not, is unacceptable. She used the "well if they can say it, I can say it" defense. Sorry, doesn't work like that. She also said that "If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race."

Additionally, regarding her "firing". She was removed from the air for a day, apologized and was back on the air. She ended her radio program at the end of that year and currently has a show on SiriusXM. So, not fired and currently working.

How did I find that info out? I googled her name. Not very difficult.

Good riddance. Overrated coach who never deserved the contract he got and certainly never deserved to have control over personnel decisions.

And I can confidently say if someone uncovered all of my emails/texts, at least as an adult, that they wouldn't find a single instance of my writing out racist, homophobic or sexist language. I also don't use that type of language in my everyday life.

Want to not get fired from your high paying job? Maybe don't use language like that. Pretty simple actually.

To quote the immortal Al Davis, just win baby.

I think those teams all had better resume's than a 9-2 UCD team would this year. Us losing to Idaho State is way worse than any loss those teams had. Of the 12 combined losses, 6 were to FBS teams, 5 were to each other and the last was to North Dakota, a 7-5 playoff team. But your general point is correct that when you're in a good conference, like the Big Sky/CAA/MVFC, you get the benefit of the doubt. A 7-5 team in those conferences is still a pretty solid team. Look at the 2019 Aggies, who went 5-7, which looks bad. However, we lost to Cal, NDST (National Champs), Montana (6 seed, QF), North Dakota (playoffs, 1st round), Weber (3 seed, SF), Montana State (5 seed, SF) and Sac St (4 seed, R16) and the only team we really got hammered by was Montana. Weber you could argue since we down 22 in the 4th but we were also only down 5 mid 3rd. That team was good, only losing to playoff teams, and still went 5-7.

.500 Big Sky teams are nothing to scoff at, which is why the conference gets the benefit of the doubt, ditto for the CAA and MVFC. In the 8 years since it's moved to 24 teams, those three conferences have had 27 of the 32 semifinalists, and Sam Houston St. made up 4 of those remaining 5.

I agree. My main point was that a 9-2 Big Sky team with an FBS win and a win over Weber is getting a home game. 9-2 where we don’t beat anyone good by virtue of lucky scheduling is a different story.

This team would have to win out to get a 1st round bye like the 2018 team did. Of course we’d probably believe in them more then we do now if they did win out.

Yeah, we couldn’t sell out the first FCS playoff game we’ve ever had. I mean, I know it’s FCS but it’s not like we have a 25K seat stadium.

9-2 in the Big Sky with wins over Weber and Tulsa and we’d almost definitely host a game. It would probably be a first round game though so we’d be seeded 9-16 rather in the top 8 like in 2018.

That also assumes Weber continues to at least be decent also. Weber’s next two are home to Montana State and at EWU. If they get blasted in those games, all of a sudden our win over them doesn’t look that great anymore.

8-3 I bet we still get in assuming we don’t get annihilated in those two games though. Very unlikely it would be a home game though.

Our 2018 resume wasn’t that great either if you just look at who we played. Beat a 1-11 San Jose St team (Tulsa already has 2 wins) and San Diego, who made the playoffs but lost their first game. After that our best wins were Montana and Idaho State at 6-5. But San Diego was the only playoff team we beat. EWU annihilated us. Now, the difference is that team was putting up 40 every game besides Stanford and EWU, and besides Idaho State, was hammering teams. So it’s not a perfect comparison. But that team still got a 6 seed and proved in the playoffs that it deserved it.

It wasn’t a bad call in retrospect. It was just a bad call that ended up having the worst possible consequences come from it.

If they get the ball at the 20, maybe they don’t even try to move the ball since they’d need to get 50 yards just to get into field goal range as opposed to 25. I don’t think Idaho Stare was thinking TD there at the beginning of the drive. They probably would have been happy with 3 to make it a three score game.

It’s 4th and 17. If we had Patrick Mahomes as our QB the odds would be slim of picking that up. How many passes did we complete in the 1st half? Wasn’t many. If it’s 4th and short you could sell me on it. But the slim chance of actually picking that up isn’t nearly worth the risk of what happens from giving Idaho State good field position.

Plus we got the ball to start the second half. Go in down 17-3, regroup like you said, and hopefully put 7 on the board. We did drive down into the red zone too. I like our odds if it’s 17-10 (so punt deep and then don’t throw a pick on that first drive of the 2nd half) to actually pull the game out.

Stop me if you’ve heard this before…

Yes, Bob, we’ve heard it before. It was two months ago. From you.

Going to be some shakeup in the rankings this week with 2, 3, 7 and 9 all losing.

If only we were down just 7 instead of 14, a FG wouldn’t hurt so much.