• movielover
    744
    I was just looking at carries.
  • SochorField
    680
    He didn’t sit behind Lan last year, he sat behind Matteo Perez and that is the biggest slap in the face to Fisher I’ve ever seen. I wondered about that all last year.Aggienation818

    Same here. I think Plough rewards "program guys" like Mateo and Mitch Dixon. I think its smart- when done carefully. I'm glad Jordan was patient and was able to see the big picture.

    As a total outsider (not friend or family), I think Carter is being a little impatient here. He has 3 more years to flourish at Davis. Lan only had 58 and 65 carries his first 2 full seasons '21-'22. Carter carried 67 times as a Frosh this year. Lan made an NFL roster with only 2 years of heavy carries in college.
    Vargas is highly physically gifted. I'd love to see what he can do in the backfield and being further incorporated in the passing game. He appears to be a very gifted receiver too. If Lan caught 62 for 800 in 2024, imagine what Carter could do with his athletic ability.
    A guy like Trent Tompkins might be a good guy for Carter to remember. He wasn't QB1, RB1 or WR1 (though I'm sure he believed he could be any one of those) but he was all over the place, essential to the team's success, and an absolute fan favorite.

    AND, just because he's entering the portal, it doesn't mean he's leaving- we've had guys look around but end up staying. This might not be about carries or catches, but just seeing what else it out there. No harm in that.
  • SochorField
    680
    I’m not a fan of slighting fisher when he’s more efficient in every statistic and dosent give up the ball.EverythingAgs

    I see no slighting of Fisher here. Everyone here agrees he's a great Aggie I'm sure.
  • fugawe09
    388
    Not accusing anyone specifically, but would be interesting to run some broad stats on out-for-the-rest of-the-season injuries and transfer portal cash grabs to see if there is a correlation. Kind of like how NFL prospects refuse to play in bowl games.
  • Riveraggie
    452

    Most of the guys out for the season have been out for over.a month. Missing games doesn't help marketability.
    It.would be interesting to know who is out for the season, we can only guess, but many of them aren't in line for a payday. Davis is only missing four starters even if you include Vargas as one. Of.those.starters two, the Connors, may not have eligibility. Winston Williams is going.to be devalued because he has an injury history. We've lost players who weren't consistent starters before, but it is unlikely there is a big market for them..
  • movielover
    744
    Do guys in the portal have to pass a physical before the new offer is valid? And what if an injured player can't partake in spring ball for his new team?

    With the NIL making grants supposedly one-year deals, can colleges legally waive players who don't perform the first year or two?

    Imagine our team right now, plus the Connors? Or if we get them back for next year...
  • fugawe09
    388
    I wasn’t suggesting anyone specific on our team. More thinking the broader football market.
  • Aggienation818
    90
    Yeah I think Mitch is a dog though! But in regards to Lan not getting carries earlier. Carter was a 3 star who turned down fbs to come to Davis, we got lucky with Lan as he’s listed as a 2 star dual threat QB coming out. @everythingAgs, my apologies I don’t want you to think I’m shading Fisher. Just was a big fan of them as a duo and more so disappointed how coaches treated the situation. I think Fisher is amazing and hope he gets an NFL shot.
  • NCagalum
    421
    Rotating running backs isn’t the same negative impact as rotating QBs, and its a position where players get hit every carry, run routes and block, so more likely to need a breather.
    Agreed. If you look at Montana State (although acknowledging they are more run heavy) last year they had Scottre Humphrey, Julius Davis, and Adam Jones. Davis was out much of the year with injuries, and when Humphrey hit the portal to New Mexico, this year they still had Davis and Jones. Relying on one solid running back is fraught with potential problems in my mind as that is an injury prone or over-workload prone position.
  • movielover
    744
    It is also great motivation / learning experience for subs, especially when we're up by 3 TDs in the second half of games.
  • movielover
    744
    FWIW, NAU 215# FB Seth Cromwell has entered the portal. Was productive two years ago, but buried on the depth chart now.
  • SochorField
    680
    Yeah I think Mitch is a dog though!Aggienation818
    Absolutely. So fun seeing him get touches. The place goes crazy for him. I wish he could have be utilized more over the years. To my eye, 85% of his work has been done in the locker room and practice field. He's an all-time great Aggie to me.
  • SochorField
    680
    But in regards to Lan not getting carries earlier. Carter was a 3 star who turned down fbs to come to DavisAggienation818

    This is a good point. He has expectations, and rightly so.
  • Riveraggie
    452
    Jordan Fisher was the higher rated between he and Carter Vargas on 247sports. . Carter was rated about the same as this years recruit Aden Jackson. Should they all have expectations?
  • SochorField
    680
    Should they all have expectations?Riveraggie

    Yep!
    According 247:
    Fisher had offers from Air Force, Army, Navy, Montana State, etc.
    Vargas had offers from Nevada, UAB, Army Boston College, etc.
    Jackson had an offer from Washington State
  • Toke69
    531
    Anyone have a list of outstanding Aggie footballers who could have left and didn't? Lan Larison? the Conners twins? etc. (I moved this from a different thread because it's more appropriate here.)
  • movielover
    744
    Dual-threat backup QB David Rasor intends to enter the TP w 3 years eligibility remaining.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DRiGe-wElvI/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
  • CA Forever
    1.1k
    That's not surprising to me. If Caden sticks around then the starting job is locked up years and we have brought in A LOT of QBs in the last couple seasons.
  • DrMike
    1.3k
    Vargas is getting feelers from much higher profile schools than these. This isn’t a decision based on number of carries - it’s money and opportunity to play at the highest level.
  • fugawe09
    388
    If someone enters the portal but doesn’t end up transferring, does it cause weird feelings with teammates about commitment or is everyone all in on business is just business?
  • movielover
    744
    I think they were cool w Ulonzo.
  • Sailorgabe
    244
    Anyone updates from the portal? Keeping fingers crossed we are able to pick up some great talent!
  • DavisAggie
    73
    The portal action won't start until early January
  • Sailorgabe
    244
    Copy. Thanks.
  • SoCalAggie
    140
    Cal Poly QB entering the portal.
  • Pacifico2
    318
    The portal is not as sexy as kids on Twitter make it sound. I read yesterday that 60-70% of the FBS/FCS kids in the portal never play football again
  • Sailorgabe
    244
    Really? Man that is awful.
  • Pacifico2
    318
    Scholarships are one year contracts, renewed annually. Someone figured that out a few years ago and started cutting guys. Then the portal came along and not only allowed an opportunity for free agency, but also a dumping ground for the players cut.
  • LeFan
    89


    A significant portion of scholarship players that wind up in the portal did not get there voluntarily.
  • Pacifico2
    318
    Exactly right.

    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but let CV go, I hope he gets what he thinks he deserves. If the NFL has taught me/us anything, it is that Running Backs are a dime a dozen. If he's an elite, NFL prospect type, he'll get the money then go tear it up wherever. Good for him. What I'm saying is that: 1.) we can win without him, and that 2.) it is not hard to replace top running backs.
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