Man his statement is so stupid.

They're as prepared as any team in the country to move from FCS to FBS? What because of a little money and a good (FCS) recruiting class? That's crazy. You're not James Madison. You're not Sam Houston St.

They've performed extremely well in FCS in recent years? You had 3 good seasons with a coach who is no longer there. Prior to Taylor, the most wins Sac State had in an FCS football season was 7. If Taylor was still there you could make an argument that this success would continue. Maybe the new guy is legit. But he hasn't coached a game there yet. Oh, and they couldn't even make an FCS semifinal with Taylor. They went 1-3 in the playoffs, all at home, and made one QF.

Best recruiting class in the country? Sure in FCS. Not to mention that recruiting rankings are far from perfect and get more imprecise the further down you go.

Mike Bibby is their head coach. Cool. I know Deion Sanders is a success story but lets not act like a successful former player automatically makes a great coach and that it's anywhere close to a sure thing he's going to have success there. "We have an NBA star as our head basketball coach" is not a good justification for your football team to go to FBS. I can say the same thing about Shaq as the GM.

as to the Mike Bibby statement, obviously you’ve forgotten the college coaching careers of Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin!

Oh wait….I see your point

I forgot Mullin coached St. Johns. But as I was typing the Bibby thing, Ewing was definitely on my mind.

There have been some success stories out there, many of them were guys (like Bibby) who point guards. Some have had success at one place, but failed in others -> like Reggie Theus. Obviously, institutional support is big....and with the portal, that name recognition seems like it can be useful especially in building up a program.

It's ridiculous for UCD to worry about what Sac State is doing in athletics. I would ten times rather see it eliminate athletics altogether (phasing them out gradually)than try to copy Sac State.

One major difference between the two is that if UCD got rid of all sports it would still have a top-notch university to attract community interest. On Picnic Day, of the thousands who attend, how many are there to see a sporting event ? Maybe a couple hundred if the baseball team is home that day, but they're just players' family members. The fact that a mere open house can attract that many visitors without sports shows UCD can bring in the community with creativity if it throws a quality party.. I do not care if Davis remains a sleepy city forever. Quiet can be good. Not every city needs to be like a Tik Tok hot pink vomit dance video.

I am not advocating for the elimination of sports, merely restraint in spending. Football doesn't pay for itself, and neither does basketball. How many billions of hypothetical donations and miracles will it take for the sports to be raised to insane level of national interest where UCD athletics is actually profitable ? Spend billions of other people's money to make millions (maybe). Consider that the alumni and greater community are already asked for so much just to keep the university in good shape. Do you think there is just an endless supply of deep-pocketed donors out there to support anything and everything UCD wants to do ? UCD doesn't exist in a vaccuum; it's not the only entity with its hand out. How many of us on this board are even in a position to give the type of huge donations it will need ? It's easy to talk about huge goals when it's other people's money. Some of you folks talk about improvements like you're CA politicians. Yeah, let's do that. Let someone else figure out how to pay for it.

On the other hand, Sac State desperately needs this huge risk to work out for them. It's a cookie-cutter CSU in a state with plenty of colleges. If they crash and burn with sports they have no other real way to bring in community support. Let them try to host their own Picnic Day equivalent and see if they draw more than a few people out walking their dogs.

For sure. Didn't mean to make it seem like their football and basketball teams will fail. They certainly could be successful. It was more saying that they're better set up to make the transition than any other team is ridiculous.

James Madison made the playoffs 8 straight years from 14-21, won a national title and made two other title games (they were the only team from 2011-2019 to knock off NDST in the playoffs). Sam Houston St made the playoffs each year from 11-17, losing in the title game twice and making the semis three other times. They won the title in the 2021 spring season. Those two teams were set up to transition. Sac St is not those teams.