Sam Houston without Schmidt their starting QB.

NDSU-UND was a slobber knocker. Not pretty to watch but NDSU defense made the plays when needed. UND qb made massive mistake when he threw a pass up for grabs at about the NDSU 20 in 3rd quarter. Both teams had only 1 TD.

UND 7 NDSU 6 at half. Game in Grand Forks.

“Ollie” as in “Big C” fight song. Used instead of “Oski” (the golden bear) that Kal uses.

Long-standing traditions seem to fall by the wayside to “new traditions” at which I chuckle at the oxymoronish nature. Cheerleaders used to stand on milk cans and wear denim outfits embracing the “Aggie” tradition but of course that went out of vogue.

http://magazinearchive.ucdavis.edu/issues/fall97/CorrespondenceTOC/Letter_Ollie.html

that was not on the clip I saw, but yes, the fumble was on 4th down and the play was going nowhere so no practical difference.

Thought Jay Hill’s comments were classy, i.e., no excuses. He hit the nail on the head with turnover margin (their’s season to date) being a big factor. You could see the frustration in his face.

Who’d have thunk in the not too distant past that the Ags would have 2 wins with only 19 and 17 points in an entire season let alone 2 of 4 games. Defense and special teams, particularly punting and turnovers are very key ingredients are what win you the close ones and make more special seasons. In part, a more ball control type of offense oftentimes helps the defense.

I remember seeing Idaho play UOP in Stockton at a band day in the early 70s when I was in a high school band in the same county. Don’t remember who won. Also saw Santa Clara with Dan Pastorini beat Pacific in Stockton at another band day. I think Pacific was in the PCAA then. Not sure about Idaho.

the only case I have seen it called was when a running back receives a screen or swing pass and doesn’t catch it until past the line of scrimmage and there is a blocker in the area impeding a defender. I didn’t know about this rule until the 2019 game in Fargo that I attended. At that game they threw a flag when Tehran Thomas caught a screen pass just past the line of scrimmage and a lineman was engaged with a defender. In that game the flag for offensive PI was picked up and it was explained that the runner caught the ball behind the line of scrimmage, but then then NDSU protested and upon video review it was found that TT was just beyond the LOS when he received the ball. That resulted in a TD being called back.

I agree with aggiefinn - Weber state has the toughest defense the Ags will face. Have not looked at Idaho boards but it seems from the reporting here that some appear to be sniffing glue. That doesn’t mean unexpected things cannot or won’t happen on Saturday.

Re-watched the “controversial swing pass for Weber that got called back for offensive PI. The receiver caught the ball about 1/2 yard past line of scrimmage so call was correct. The announcers said that he was way behind the li
E of scrimmage but I think they either confused the line of scrimmage marker with first down marker or thought the rule was position of receiver when the pass was released be the QB. Roughing the passer call on Weber was ticky-tack. Late PI on Weber in end zone was an example of how these calls are seemingly made these days with most balls “deemed catchable” if the receiver is noticeably impeded. Have wondered about that trend but hard to prove a negative I guess.

Saw that near pick too. And if the pass had got past the lineman, a defender had a bead for a pick. Hastings played well off the bench, but I don’t think there was any way HR would have been yanked if not hurt. HR is definitely a better scrambler ( with acknowledged risk of injury) and I think is a nimbler handler of ball in the current offensive scheme. Would have to slightly adjust offense for Hastings. HR did throw a few errant passes but Weber coverage was good and there were not many open opportunities. Interesting how a maybe sub par game leads to a QB “controversy”.

One we may have got a break on was offensive PI on swing to Davis that wiped out first down and out them back at the 10. That set up the last drive, correct? I believe the rule is blocking is okay is pass is behind the line?

Correct. Cannot block if pass is caught line of scrimmage or beyond. This was the exact same situation that negated a touchdown on a swing pass to Tehran Thomas 2019 at North Dakota State. Thomas was about 1/2 yard beyond line. Critical call

What a gutsy win!!

yes more 2 tight end. And oftentimes in support of the run game I believe - at least with Thorpe and O’Keefe.

with sort of an abundance of folks to throw to, I don’t think it’s that abnormal that Vaughan is not being thrown to much. With Harrell, Castles, and now Crawford back (not to mention Gilliam and Larison out of the backfield- and also Tompkins) there isn’t a lot of opportunities for others. I do think it is nice to have dispersed options so the opposition cannot key on one guy. I would say that Harrell has really stepped up.

It is still early, but I think with UCD, EWU, and both Montana’s ranked above Weber Jay Hill is getting a bit concerned. He stated that Weber was the better team in the first half, and has been making what sound to be excuses in the press, that, I think, are indicative of his concern.

I also think that if Barron had any chance of going, he would, but he would not likely run much, if so. In any case, and especially in the case of Johnson or Weisser, I think putting pressure on either we and doing any thing to confuse or shake them up will pay dividends. Johnson did not look comfortable at all last week, and I think Hill’s patience with him ran thin especially after the botched snap/fumble.

As always the turnover margin will be critical, as well as special teams - and as -always defense. Anything can happen on any Saturday, but I believe the Ags are the better team this year (season). I am not worried about the Ags offense, but they need to be sound in the other areas.

Looks like Barron is out:

https://www.standard.net/sports/weber-state/2021/sep/21/weber-state-football-quarterbacks-barron-injury-cooley-transfer/

As Chris Peterson said on Saturday on FS1, offense puts fans in the stands but defense is what wins big games. It looks like Devon King may be out again after seeing him go to the sideline holding his arm/shoulder. Sure would like him on Rasheed. Ags Held Weber to 18 points last game. I think the Ags win if they hold them to <=20.

Montana State looks very tough. I would definitely have them above Eastern Washington. The brawl of the wild should be a fun game.

Well I am a band alum and I cared about the band and the team, and the thing of it is, the team loved us back in the day. We were all representing the same university after all, and we the faithful (and sometimes only) rooting section . Coach Sochor would make it a point to talk to us and acknowledge us - and the impact we had on spirit. That what was so great about the relationships.

Times change I guess and I am not defending bad behavior that ostensibly lead to this. But back in the day I think everyone took a bit more personal responsibility for themselves and just didn’t attend off campus parties that got too out of hand. It again was a different era when for instance we had a member who went by “squaw” (part Native American) and she nor anybody else was offended by it. She even wore a shirt with that moniker.