At this point, I agree to an extent - but if he's physically ready to play, it might make sense to get 20 snaps or so...my opinion. Coming in stone cold vs. Montana - how much would Rex actually play at that point? I'm not at practice or in the film room, so I don't know how ready Rex is at this point, but he needs to get his feet wet again, and I mean out of the pool therapy, and onto the game field.

We have a host of players out due to injury (i do not think anything season ending). Without any special inside knowledge, i do not think any of these players will be rushed back. I thing we are focused on a deep playoff run and better to be at full strength at beginning of playoffs than risk re-injury early season. Also, other players are getting qualify reps so we are building debt across the board.

With respect to Rex, we do need to protect him because he will be looking to make a push into the NFL. Cannot do that if you are less than 100% going in.

Winston Williams and Trent Carrade appeared to be full participants in practice today. Hayden John and Kam totten mostly working out in pads on the sideline. Main in pads doing non football workouts. Rex not in pads.

Thanks for update. Really need Trent back.

I've rewatched every snap Cleeland has played this season, and after going through the film closely, I came away less impressed than I was initially. This isn't a criticism of him personally; it's strictly an evaluation of his current performance and traits from a football perspective.

After reviewing the most recent game along with the two preceding games, there are several areas that stand out as concerns.

Pocket Movement/Footwork: Cleeland's footwork is inconsistent, particularly when operating from the pocket. He appears overly active and jittery at times, which can disrupt his base and lead to poor weight transfer. As a result, there are throws where he doesn't appear fully balanced or properly set before releasing the ball. Cleaning up his footwork and developing a more consistent base should be a priority.

Processing/Progressions: One of the bigger concerns is his ability to work through progressions. He appears to lock onto his initial read too frequently rather than consistently working through the progression and getting to the next option when the first read isn't available. That tendency is becoming more noticeable on film, and defensive backs appear to be recognizing it. He's giving defenders opportunities to read his eyes and anticipate where the ball is going.

Accuracy/Touch: The arm talent is evident. He has enough arm strength to make throws to all areas of the field, but arm strength hasn't consistently translated into accuracy. His ball placement can be inconsistent, particularly when he's throwing from an unstable base. I also haven't seen a consistent level of touch on throws that require more than simply driving the ball.

Mobility: I haven't seen much evidence of significant rushing ability. While he can move when necessary, he doesn't appear to have the burst or acceleration to consistently turn broken plays into explosive runs. His mobility currently looks more functional than dynamic.

Overall: The physical tools are there, particularly the arm strength, but the overall quarterback operation still needs considerable development. The biggest areas for improvement are footwork, pocket composure, processing speed, progression discipline, and ball placement. Those issues appear to be interconnected, particularly when his base and pocket movement break down.

Based strictly on what I've seen on film this season, I'd currently grade his performance in the C-/D+ range. That's less a reflection of his long-term potential and more an assessment of where his game is right now.

Duly noted, and I want to make sure we're on the same page. My opinion is simply that I thought Cleeland looked like the guy at the end of spring, and that he should be QB1. Anytime there's a competition, there will be differing opinions, which I respect. I don't feel like 5's done anything to lose that job, and I do like what I've seen from Kollock thus far. However, most of his work has come against defenses that weren't playing their starters in out-of-hand games. In the course of a season, he will eventually get some meaningful reps and hopefully performs well. I don't put as much stock into the SoCal QB deal because he played at essentially the same level of football that Cleeland did. Outside of the Trinity League and Mission Viejo, you see very similar kids in the secondary and on defense in Orange County that you get in the large Portland-area schools so to me, that's a wash. Most QBs in Southern California are at least 1x transfers, as well.

I wouldn't even count on Rex vs. Montana with practice report. I doubt you go from nothing to playing as far as practice goes, but I could be wrong.

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I would expect to see every healthy player suited up and ready to get playing time, especially on special teams throughout the game. No offense to the Mad Hatters, we need to make sure we are as healthy as possible for Montana and beyond.

Comparing the talent in southern california even not including the trinity league or for that matter california in general to the talent in Portland oregon is a HUGEEEE stretch. There is a reason that both programs in oregon come to california for kids and not vice versa.