• LeFan
    88


    Big programs bring their own AC benches in college. SMU supplies visitors with the misting fans.
  • BlueGoldAg
    1.7k
    Here is a quote from ESPN
    “The SMU sideline had eight air-conditioned benches with shade coverings, plus the shade of the press box in the second half. No such relief for UC Davis on the east sideline, where a half-dozen misting fans had to do all the work. The stands behind the UC Davis bench were virtually empty after halftime. Almost all of what was left of the crowd was in the shady west stands.”
    Riveraggie

    I find it really disappointing to see things like this where the very wealthy, power teams will take any advantage they can get no matter what in order to win at any cost. Of course, Le Fan, says that these teams travel with their own air conditioned benches. Stuff like this is what makes it difficult for me to get excited about the top power teams and don't get me started about how the referees found an extra second for Michigan...
  • Sailorgabe
    244
    a big reason I stopped wishing for Davis to join the FBS. I just don't want to become a punching bag that never has a real shot at winning anything. FBS is about money. I'm not sure I want to play in those waters.
  • movielover
    743
    Yes, it's about losing vast amounts of money.
  • Pacifico2
    314
    The fact that Davis does not have covered bench units, or at least rent some big sideline misters, was baffling to me. That's some Mickey Mouse operations work. Buy four of those covered benches, you'll use them at some point. And the misters can be rented locally if you're too cheap to buy your own. Really bush league by the ops staff.
  • SochorField
    672
    Despite all the improvements program-wide, this is still a tight budget operation. It really shows on a road trip like SMU.
  • Jdur
    542
    Which is why a trip to Dallas for 460k is just stupid. Montana State got 400k to go to Reno. Whoever scheduled the SMU game made a dumb decision IMO.
  • Pacifico2
    314
    There are donors that would get on board for specific projects like this or this because they're tangible. Buy four of these things, including the helmet coolers and the shade covers, and throw them in the back of the jenky equipment truck only when we travel to an extreme climate like Texas or the South. Otherwise, use them at home. They look cool with the branding and the players would appreciate it. Seems meaningless to some, but it points in the right direction. Football needs a dedicated fundraiser who understands these things (and stupid, practical items like cleat/glove dryers, real performance nutrition needs, etc) and is less concerned with charging people for tailgates and social events. Those have a place, but there are things our team needs that our program can do better, and people will often give if they see what they're giving to.
  • AggieFinn
    957
    All the FCS vs. FBS Payouts can be found here:
    https://herosports.com/2026-fcs-vs-fbs-payouts-bzbz/

    Going through the Big Sky, in order for payday:
    Weber State got $700,000 to play @ Colorado
    Montana is getting $675,000 to play @ Oregon State
    Idaho @ Utah - $600,000
    Portland State @ Oregon - $590,000
    Eastern @ Washington - $575,000
    Northern Arizona @ Arizona - $550,000
    Portland State @ San Diego State - $475,000
    UC Davis @ SMU - $460,000
    Cal Poly @ SJSU - $450,000
    Utah Tech @ BYU - $450,000
    Southern Utah @ Colorado State - $425,000
    Idaho State @ Utah State - $400,000 (a 1 hour and 40 minute bus ride)
    Montana State @ Nevada - $400,000
    Northern Colorado @ Wyoming - $400,000 (a 1 hour and 50 minute bus ride)

    Other Notables:
    McNeese @ LSU - $750,000
    Northern Iowa @ Iowa - $700,000
    Youngstown State @ Kentucky - $575,000
    North Dakota @ Nebraska - $550,000
    Towson @ South Carolina - $550,000
    Wagner @ Cal - $525,000
    South Dakota State @ Northwestern - $500,000
    Furman @ Tennessee - $500,000
    Villanova @ Louisville - $500,000
    Mercer @ Georgia Tech - $475,000
    South Dakota @ Boise State - $475,000
    Tarleton State @ Bowling Green - $360,000
    Illinois State @ Northern Illinois - $350,000
    The Citadel @ UNC Charlotte - $300,000

    *Bold - FCS Teams who won their FBS matchup.
  • davisguy52
    138
    Wow. So the only program who got fleeced harder was Utah Tech when you compare P4 vs. BigSky matchups. I would've hoped we had more negotiation power than Utah Tech..
  • eastbayaggie
    182
    Does anyone remember how much we're paying Stetson?
  • AggieFinn
    957


    $170,000 guaranteed.
    Stetson resides in Deland, FL - just a bit north of Orlando.
  • Pacifico2
    314
    This is a poor reflection on whomever brokered this game to take such a paltry deal from a P-4 conference and an institution with the resources SMU possesses. $460k is embarrassing. How are we going to pay for our covered cooling benches?!
  • eastbayaggie
    182
    We probably need the equivalent in snowy or cold conditions.
  • SochorField
    672
    This D1 football stuff is EXPENSIVE.......
  • AggieFinn
    957
    Seems to be true that - the lower tier the FBS team, the less you get paid, the better your chances of competing...you know 5 of those lower 6 were FCS wins, and UNC was in that game @ Wyoming.

    I'll say that NDSU may be the most impressive Mountain West Football team this season if things continue to play out -- results from last week alone:
    North Texas smokes UNLV 44-6
    Northern Colorado battles Wyoming and loses 13-21
    New Mexico stomps Mercyhurst 70-7
    Illinois State beats Northern Illinois 28-24
    San Jose State gets past Cal Poly 20-30
    UTEP whoops FCS Texas Southern 51-10
    NDSU outlasts Air Force 38-32, that was in Colorado Springs by the way, and a huge Bison fan turnout.
    Montana State beats Nevada 20-7 in Reno
    Hawai'i wins at home against a not so good New Mexico State squad 29-19
  • SochorField
    672
    NDSU outlasts Air Force 38-32, that was in Colorado Springs by the way, and a huge Bison fan turnout.AggieFinn

    Impressive turnout by NDSU
  • ucdtim17
    38
    We got the worst deal, playing an elite FBS team for a low payout in extreme conditions at a fairly distant location. If we're going to settle for such a low payout, let's at least play someone closer we have a better shot at being competitive with.
  • Pacifico2
    314
    Leadership made a bad decision. UC Davis gained nothing from that aside from a "meager" 460. Could have done much better
  • eastbayaggie
    182
    According to Plough's last interview, UCD did try to schedule against Mountain West teams, but they declined. UCD didn't really have an option other than schedule P4 teams. Plough said he embraced that, but I think that's just spin.
  • ucdtim17
    38
    Embrace it fine, but demand a commensurate payout! $400k is a reasonable amount of money from a MWC team; don't accept less than $700k from a rich P4 program like SMU. Cal is playing Wagner this weekend, Stanford is playing Elon this season. Surely we were not in such a bind that $460k from SMU was the best deal we could come up with. Someone was lazy and not considering if this was the best possibility for the program this season.
  • Pacifico2
    314
    Absolutely spin. The Mountain West has hosted Idaho State, Montana State, Cal Poly, and probably some others.
  • AggieFinn
    957


    This is all true...literally 3 Big Sky vs. Mountain West games on last weekend.
  • ucdtim17
    38
    Cal is paying Wagner $525k. We could have undercut that (if we even needed to) to give Cal a much more attractive opponent that would bring a much larger visiting contingent. More interesting for our fans, probably more competitive, easy trip, etc.
  • AggieFinn
    957


    ...and less jet fuel exhaust coming out from Staten Island!
  • SloStang
    113
    Some contracts have a payout (like $400,000), but also pay for travel and lodging which is a big expense. It is quite possible SMU might have done that and that is why the payout is less than you would expect from a P4.
  • AggieFinn
    957


    Well, that's a good point. If travel/lodging was paid for as well, I don't know, is that standard (?), not the worst trip to FBS-land
  • Pacifico2
    314
    This is fact. Not uncommon for the cost of the charter, all the buses, fuel expenses and accommodations for the equipment truck and crew, plus player hotel night and meals to be covered by the host/money school. That brings the $460k up to a little over $500k in my estimation.
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