or that part of the contract no longer applies, since we were don’t get the first spot and now it is open season for the next team, even if it’s Sac St.

That clause of the contract has passed, we no longer have leverage or a “right” to the next spot. That’s what we gave up by not fighting for our brand.

that put me to sleep as has every UCD ICA statement from the last 30 years.

Requiring an FCS Championship before being ready to move up is like saying let’s win the lottery. We’ve proven we are as good as any team, but you never know when Illinois St. will show up and ruin everything.

North Dakota State Athletics program revenues and expenses

you'll have to scroll through, but once you do you'll see NDSU athletics department revenues at $29 mil and expenses at $30 mil.

and now they just spent $17 mil to become FBS...

So the Instagram post post by UCD Athletics and football is a little upsetting. Allegations of posts being deleted, and then, that post is no longer visible as well as I watched in real time.

Pretty sad if what I actually saw what I saw. We should be better.

Thanks for the perspective. I've only been on the bandwagon for 25 years and that's from a distance. I honestly don't have a great understanding of what drives the Aggie alumni base since I ain't one. I've just looked at a lot of college football, seen a lot of programs drop the sport and others make a go of it way over their skies only to get stuck in football purgatory, hoping at best for that bid to the Toilet Bowl sponsored by Ajax. Personally, I like the concept of playoffs and to be a part of those every year at the D1 level took a lot of work by UCD. They've gone from hoping to get in to expecting to get in. Plenty of teams would kill for that. I support a move to the MWC if and when our facilities are ready and the program (players and coaches, support staff, operations budget) is funded at a level to be competitive in the MWC. We don't need to be Cal or Fresno St., but we need to be on par with UNLV, New Mexico, and even North Dakota State before it makes any sense to move-up to me.

I think we just need the season to start again to shut us up. I need CFB right now now!!!

Very true…being on par with UNLV may be tough given their Gameday facilities and investment in practice facilities by the Raiders. No reason we can’t be with most others in the MWC.

We also need to position for the “next” division of D1. It’ll be hard to be in the second group when the super conferences happen if we aren’t already there. Then, we are effectively back to D2.

I have hammered home the opinion that it should not be if but when about joining the MW but as an unrelated point from this whole debate: I would really much rather be debating whether we want to be perennial national championship team at the FCS level or move to the Mountain West than talking about joining the CUSA or the MAC . Actually setting ourselves up to play teams that actually make sense to play against (regionally, rivalry-wise, logistically) makes me happy. I have my own strong opinion on this topic obviously, but I love everyone here debating these realistic, logical and exciting futures that we can see happen.

"Perineal" is a poor word choice.

You would think an English major could actually spell :lol: *fixed, thank you haha

My conspiracy theory is that Rocko reads this thread.

Most of my alumni friends and work colleagues view Davis as D2 in football but all began to get interested the previous few months since they thought football was also moving to “real D1”s/mountain west conference but were disappointed when I told them that was for all sports except football. I feel like we will get a lot more attention and donors once we move up but agree that we gotta walk before we run. So I am hoping we break ground on phase 1 of stadium expansion asap and the. Add the additional seats in 2028 so that we move up by 2030.

upvote this times a million.

I blame us and for that…I thank us

“ Our product is stagnant/stale after 23 years. Not sure within FCS there is much we can do to elevate it. Dare I say…ascend?”

I don’t agree with that. During the Gould era, things were definitely stagnant. But Hawk got us going in the right direction and with Plough at the helm and Rocko’s help, the games have been fun to attend. Attendance has gone up, donations have gone up, and we actually are making a dent in NIL funding. Yes we need more big time donors. But success (at the fcs level) will build success and make us relevant for the big move. And we need the updated facility to be fbs anyway, unless we want to share Cal Expo with those other guys, lol.