• DrMike
    853
    One might infer that the level of compliance at Stanford is higher than his previous stops
  • agalum
    383
    “ The second investigation cited evidence "that this is an ongoing pattern of concerning behavior by Coach Taylor." It was conducted last June and July by Timothy O'Brien, senior counsel for the Libby, O'Brien, Kingsley & Champion law firm in Maine. O'Brien, who has advised several Division I and Power 5 programs, said in his report that he has never encountered "this palpable level of animosity and disdain" for a university compliance office.”

    Even during the interview with me, when talking about compliance issues, Coach Taylor's tone was forceful and aggressive," O'Brien wrote.”

    I’ve never really thought he would last there.
  • AggieFinn
    609
    Wait? Is he fired?
  • Fan4Life
    9
    I teach at a high school in Sacramento County that Taylor coached and taught at 30 years ago. He did not make any friends here. I believe that the football program at Utah was toxic, and Taylor might have picked up on that there.
  • movielover
    576
    Shouldn't the title of this thread be "alleged"?
  • agalum
    383


    “ After the first investigation, Taylor signed a warning letter on Feb. 14, 2024, acknowledging he could be fired if the conduct continued, according to the documents. Additional complaints were documented in a second investigation that ended last July 24, but Taylor remains on the job.”
  • 72Aggie
    343
    Speculation on the Slack State board that Stanford is doing the preliminary work to make it easier to let him go if the team has another losing season. Also there is some "I heard rumors about this kind of conduct when he was at Sac." Ironic for a board that in the middle of last season had posters projecting that he would eventually return to Sac and re-establish the glory.
  • 72Aggie
    343
    The title of the article, as printed on the ESPN website is "Reports find Stanford's Taylor bullied, belittled female staffers" In other places on the ESPN website there is a link to the article that reads "Reports: Stanford coach bullied athletics staff."
  • Kadeezy
    6
    Oh we would totally take our "Equal Opportunity Asshole" back if Marion doesn't work out... LOL
  • 72Aggie
    343
    …or if he works out TOO well and Stanford recruits him to replace the departed alleged bully…
  • movielover
    576
    If true, it's bad. We are in woke times. Imagine Bobby Knight today.
  • Russ Bowlus
    355
    The fact that Bobby Knight lasted as long as he did is a testament to America's unhealthy relationship with sports and sports figures, IMO. Nothing to do with "woke" or "PC" or any of that.
  • BlueGoldAg
    1.3k
    I grew up in Indiana. Bob Knight was a great basketball mind but he was also an abusive coach and a disgusting, vulgar man. Yes, he won lots of games and championships but, over the years, he brought a lot of shame to a cherished basketball program.

    The IU administration looked the other way for years until they couldn't anymore after he physically choked one of his own players. He should have been fired long before he ran the reputation of the program into the ground. The Big Ten had several coaches who were abusive like Knight: Woody Hayes at Ohio State and Bo Shembechler at Michigan but Knight was the worst of them all.
  • Riveraggie
    270
    That was a different era, abusive coaches weren’t limited to the guys you mentioned, but those guys big enough names to hold their positions for decades, while the rules changed without them noticing, that it was no longer ok to assault people or throw chairs.
  • Russ Bowlus
    355
    Hot take: it was never ok to assault people or throw chairs.
  • 72Aggie
    343
    Don’t talk politics or religion, but it’s not “woke” to refrain from bulling or belittling staff…
  • Riveraggie
    270

    But Woody for one got away with the occasional assault and throwing things for several decades. What was not a firing offense became one.
  • movielover
    576
    On a Stanford Cardinal fan site, new possible revelations / allegations come forth.

    branner Wrote: "Thank you for posting that NBC Bay Area report, which includes at roughly the 1:00 mark images of the purported O'Brien report. To the extent the O'Brien report is real, it appears that source of the original complaint is a male who identifies as a female and that the department employs multiple such individuals. Given the accusation by this person that Taylor discriminated against "her" both for her gender and sexual orientation, it must be the case assuming the document is real that the original complainant is a male who presents himself as a homosexual female. That information was left out of the ESPN report to bias readers against Taylor. Many people would be sympathetic to the plight of a female staffer in a male-dominated football environment. They will have far less sympathy for a man in the athletic department who dresses as a woman but still prefers to have sex with women.

    "This kind of stuff is why Stanford is not likely to be able to compete in football with, say, SEC schools anytime soon. Anyone who thinks high school kids from the south, or their families, are going to be okay with cross-dressing staffers in the football program is delusional."

    https://thecardboard.org/board/showthread.php?tid=25522&pid=430371#pid430371
  • AggieFinn
    609
    I'm always of the opinion that you treat people with respect, focus on the job at hand, and as adults come up with a means of communication with each other where all avenues are met and you can conduct business together.
  • movielover
    576
    Correct. But we don't know TT side of the story. What if he reformed his ways, is still direct, and he's dealing with a hypersensitive woke employee?

    I dealt with an off-kilter woman who I was on friendly terms with twenty five years ago - we went to lunch, grabbed coffee, chatted for well over a year. UC grad, smart woman, working below her level of education. Then suddenly one tense interaction, and it became a mini nightmare.
  • AggieFinn
    609


    I totally understand the scenario. It's tough - obviously if you work integrally with someone in order to do your job and they're hyper-sensitive, or hyper-insensitive, it goes both ways, it has to be dealt with out in the open through policy and with HR, I've seen a situation where even outside consulting counsel is present.

    So, is Taylor now fired? Would hate for X to be gospel, because it isn't - but the fire always starts with a little spark.
  • AggieFinn
    609
    Back to FCS? Offensive Asst. to a BCS school? It will depend on the facts of the firing, but somebody won't care...
  • BlueGoldAg
    1.3k
    It will depend on the facts of the firing, but somebody won't care...AggieFinn

    That's for sure...
  • BaseballAtDobbins
    100
    I am not siding with TT. The football program represents the university. Lets face it, if we did that same thing at our jobs, we'd be fired. They gave him several chances, a written warning and another investigation later. While the coach doesn't have to be the nicest guy on campus, no should he be, this is not okay. It makes Sac look worse in that regard since they are a public school and have to adhere to many more California state laws.
  • agalum
    383
    My son follows “all things” Stanford. He told me they were looking for a reason to show Taylor the door. Shortly after he took the job, i was told by a really good source that Taylor would not work out, mainly bc he could not effectively deal with Stanford politics and the “Stanford way.”
  • cmt
    186
    We're not in "woke times". We're in "treat people fairly, equally, and courteously regardless of race, gender or sexuality" times.
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