I loved the guy and feel he will do well in business. What about joe harden? Didn't he play in Europe as well? I like it that we try and keep up with these great former players.

Looks like Harden is a winemaker with Robert Mondavi.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-harden-49a1a672

Mark and Joe were really fun players to watch.

The trio of Payne, Harden AND Eddie Miller together were a blast to watch; 3 pretty polished "gym rats" just battling on the floor. Never forget Miller's inbound bomb to Payne to grab a last second win against UCI(?).

They were a lot of fun to watch. Juillerat was the same kind of player, all had motors that never stopped.